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5289.txt 2011-01-01 12:00 532 Settled Science: Hoskins: If the tropical near surface specific humidity over tropical land has not gone up (Fig 5) presumably that could explain why the expected amplification of the warming in the tropics with height has not really been detected.
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5294.txt 2011-01-01 12:00 5.4K The Cause: Schneider: Even though I am virtually certain we shall lose on McCain-Lieberman, they are forcing Senators to go on record for for against sensible climate policy
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